{"id":9059,"date":"2020-01-06T19:17:43","date_gmt":"2020-01-06T17:17:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/?p=9059"},"modified":"2020-01-07T08:44:32","modified_gmt":"2020-01-07T06:44:32","slug":"interview-melvyn-neate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vaa.lt\/en\/interview-melvyn-neate\/","title":{"rendered":"Pokalbis su Melvyn Neate, ECIIA Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komiteto pirmininku \/ Interview with Melvyn Neate, Chairman of ECIIA Public Committee"},"content":{"rendered":"

(English version please check below)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

2019 m. lapkri\u010dio pabaigoje Vilniuje vie\u0161\u0117jo ECIIA Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komiteto pirmininkas Melvyn Neate. Jis atvyko \u012f Vilni\u0173 skaityti prane\u0161im\u0105 ir dalyvauti diskusijoje apie vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus audito komitetus. Melvyn pasirod\u0117 ne tik kaip profesionalas, noriai dalijantis savo patirtimi vidaus audito srityje, bet ir kaip \u012fdomus \u017emogus, su kuriuo galima kalb\u0117tis apie keliones, politik\u0105 ir kitomis temomis. Jis sutiko atsakyti \u012f klausimus ir pla\u010diau papasakoti Lietuvos Vidaus auditori\u0173 asociacijos nariams apie save ir savo patirt\u012f. Taigi malonaus interviu skaitymo!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0160iuo metu esate ECIIA Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komiteto pirmininkas. Anks\u010diau \u0117jote JK ir Airijos Vidaus audito instituto pirmininko pareigas, tur\u0117jote skirtingus vaidmenis ir pareigas vidaus audito srityje vie\u0161ajame ir priva\u010diame sektoriuose. Kas yra Melvyn Neate \u0161iandien?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dabar, kai nebedirbu vis\u0105 darbo dien\u0105, man pavyksta i\u0161laikyti pusiausvyr\u0105 tarp \u0161eimos ir darbo. A\u0161 turiu du an\u016bkus: 3 met\u0173 mergait\u0119 ir 9 savai\u010di\u0173 berniuk\u0105, tad kartu su \u017emona stengiuosi kiek \u012fmanoma daugiau laiko praleisti su jais.<\/p>\n

Darbo srityje mano laikas paskirstomas trimis kryptimis. Pirma, a\u0161 turiu apmokam\u0105 darb\u0105 b\u016bdamas Audito komitetu nariu. Antra, a\u0161 esu ECIIA Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komiteto pirmininkas . Ir tre\u010dia, skaitau daugyb\u0119 prane\u0161im\u0173 \u012fvairiais klausimais, susijusiais su organizacine kult\u016bra, valdymu, rizikos valdymu ir, \u017einoma, vidaus auditu.<\/p>\n

Kuris vaidmuo Jums asmeni\u0161kai buvo \u012fdomiausias ir svarbiausias, \u017ei\u016brint per J\u016bs\u0173 patirties prizm\u0119?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nei\u0161skir\u010diau ka\u017ekurio vaidmens, nes kiekvienas j\u0173 buvo man \u012fdomus ir dav\u0117 naudingos patirties. \u017dinoma, reik\u0161mingiausias mano vaidmuo buvo paskutinis prie\u0161 man pasitraukiant i\u0161 Jungtin\u0117s Karalyst\u0117s \u00a0Mokes\u010di\u0173 ir muit\u0173 surinkimo departamento vidaus audito direktoriaus pareig\u0173. Organizacijoje su daugiau nei 70 000 darbuotoj\u0173 ir beveik \u00a3500 milijard\u0173 \u201eapyvarta\u201c, susid\u016briau su daugybe i\u0161\u0161\u016bki\u0173, tiek sud\u0117tingumo ir \u012fvairov\u0117s, tiek masto at\u017evilgiu. \u0160iems i\u0161\u0161\u016bkiams \u012fveikti tur\u0117jau 170 vidaus auditori\u0173 komand\u0105, kurie arba jau tur\u0117jo reikiam\u0105 kvalifikacij\u0105, arba jos dar siek\u0117. Did\u017ei\u0105j\u0105 savo karjeros dal\u012f praleid\u0119s bank\u0173 ir finansini\u0173 paslaug\u0173 \u012fstaigose, tur\u0117jau priprasti prie vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus kult\u016bros ir etoso bei prie politin\u0117s aplinkos, kurioje \u0161is sektorius veikia.<\/p>\n

Mano, kaip ECIIA valdybos nario, atstovaujan\u010dio JK ir Airijai, vaidmuo pasirod\u0117 es\u0105s labai \u012fdomus, nes leido suprasti Europos dimensij\u0105 ir daugyb\u0119 \u012fvairi\u0173 audito veiklos praktik\u0173. Viena pamoka, kuria nor\u0117\u010diau pasidalinti su jumis, yra ta, kad, nepriklausomai nuo to, kiek esate geri savo veikloje, visada sutiksite ka\u017ek\u0105, i\u0161 ko galite pasimokyti. Gerosios patirties kaupimas ir dalinimasis ja yra tai, k\u0105 mes, vidaus auditoriai, tur\u0117tume skatinti ir praktikuoti!<\/p>\n

ECIIA misija – \u201eb\u016bti jungian\u010diu balsu Europos vidaus audito profesijoje (\u2026)\u201c. K\u0105 tai rei\u0161kia \u017ei\u016brint i\u0161 ECIIA Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komiteto perspektyvos? Kokia \u0161iuo metu yra J\u016bs\u0173 svarbiausia veikla Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komitete? Ar yra koki\u0173 nors iniciatyv\u0173, kurios gali b\u016bti naudingos Lietuvos Vidaus audito asociacijos nariams ar kitoms suinteresuotosioms \u0161alims Lietuvoje?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kalbant apie vie\u0161\u0105j\u012f sektori\u0173, manau, kad ECIIA misija tur\u0117t\u0173 b\u016bti apjungianti vidaus audito profesijoje Europos vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje. ECIIA siekia skatinti geras valdymo praktikas ir vidaus audito taikym\u0105 visuose sektoriuose.<\/p>\n

Pra\u0117jusios vasaros pabaigoje Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komitetas paskelb\u0117 savo pirm\u0105j\u012f pozicijos dokument\u0105 \u201eAudito komitetai Europos vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje\u201c. \u0160iame darbe buvo analizuojama pad\u0117tis Europos vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje ir i\u0161d\u0117styti audito komitet\u0173 steigimo privalumai. Jame taip pat i\u0161d\u0117stytos numatomos kli\u016btys j\u0173 k\u016brimui. Dokumente pateikiama i\u0161vada, kad audito komitet\u0173 teikiama nauda \u017eymiai atsveria visus tr\u016bkumus, tod\u0117l pabr\u0117\u017eiama, kad vidaus auditas tur\u0117t\u0173 skatinti komitet\u0173 \u012fsitvirtinim\u0105 Europos vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje.<\/p>\n

Antrasis Vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus komiteto projektas yra susij\u0119s su integruota atskaitomybe. \u0160is projektas vykdomas kartu su kolegomis i\u0161 EUROSAI. Siekiant nustatyti integruotos atskaitomyb\u0117s naudojim\u0105 Europos vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje, 2020 m. prad\u017eioje bus vykdoma apklausa, o v\u0117liau taip pa\u010diais metais planuojama paskelbti pozicijos dokument\u0105.<\/p>\n

Tre\u010diasis projektas yra susij\u0119s su vidaus audito standartais vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje. ECIIA Generalin\u0117je asambl\u0117joje daugiau nei pus\u0117 nari\u0173 nurod\u0117, jog j\u0173 \u0161alyse n\u0117ra \u012fteisinti Tarptautiniai standartai. M\u016bs\u0173 projekto tikslas – nustatyti esam\u0105 pad\u0117t\u012f ir praktik\u0105 bei pateikti rekomendacijas atei\u010diai.<\/p>\n

Manau, kad visos \u0161ios trys iniciatyvos gali b\u016bti naudingos Lietuvos vie\u0161ojo sektoriaus nariams ir labai d\u017eiaugiuosi i\u0161gird\u0119s j\u016bs\u0173 nuomon\u0119.<\/p>\n

J\u016bs skait\u0117te prane\u0161im\u0105 ir dalyvavote diskusijoje apie audito komitetus, kuri\u0105 2019 m. lapkri\u010dio 28 d. organizavo Lietuvos Vidaus audito asociacija ir BICG. Kaip trumpai apib\u016bdintum\u0117te audito komitet\u0173 pad\u0117t\u012f Europoje? Kokie yra did\u017eiausi i\u0161\u0161\u016bkiai vie\u0161ajame ir priva\u010diajame sektoriuose? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0160iuo metu pad\u0117tis Europos vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje yra labai \u012fvairi, pradedant tokiomis valstyb\u0117mis kaip JK ir Pranc\u016bzija, kur audito komitetai yra privalomi vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje, ir baigiant valstyb\u0117mis, kur audito komitetai visai neegzistuoja arba jie yra, bet tik valstyb\u0117s valdomose \u012fmon\u0117se. ECIIA palaiko komitetus, nes tiki, kad komitetai gali atlikti svarb\u0173 vaidmen\u012f gerinant organizacijos valdym\u0105. Ai\u0161kesnis komitet\u0173 veiklos princip\u0173 ir j\u0173 teikiamos naudos supratimas yra tai, ko siekia ECIIA savo veikla.<\/p>\n

Kad audito komitetai b\u016bt\u0173 veiksmingi, jie turi tur\u0117ti visi\u0161k\u0105 organizacijos valdybos \/ valdymo organo palaikym\u0105. Jie taip pat turi tur\u0117ti tinkamas \u017einias bei reikalingus \u012fg\u016bd\u017eius ir, svarbiausia, sugeb\u0117ti mesti i\u0161\u0161\u016bk\u012f ir u\u017eduoti teisingus klausimus. Tai pasakytina ir apie privat\u0173j\u012f, ir apie valstybin\u012f sektorius.<\/p>\n

Kokios yra J\u016bs\u0173 mintys po diskusijos d\u0117l audito komitet\u0173 Lietuvoje?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Didelis kiekis klausim\u0173 parodo auk\u0161t\u0105 susidom\u0117jimo audito komitetais lyg\u012f. I\u0161 prad\u017ei\u0173 atrod\u0117 buvo \u0161iek tiek \u00a0klaidinga nuomon\u0117 apie komitet\u0173 vert\u0119, ta\u010diau tikiuosi mano prane\u0161imas j\u0105 pakeit\u0117.\u00a0 Pra\u0117jo nema\u017eai laiko prie\u0161 audito komitetams atsirandant Jungtin\u0117s Karalyst\u0117s vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje, tod\u0117l a\u0161 nesitikiu, kad situacija Lietuvoje pasikeis per vien\u0105 nakt\u012f. Ta\u010diau tikiu, kad vidaus auditas pagreitins poky\u010dius ir aktyviai palaikys audito komitet\u0173 steigim\u0105 vie\u0161ajame sektoriuje.<\/p>\n

D\u0117koju u\u017e pokalb\u012f!<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Kalbino Ina Luko\u0161ien\u0117, VAA valdybos pirminink\u0117<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u012e lietuvi\u0173 kalb\u0105 vert\u0117 Olga Bogdanovi\u010d, VAA Komunikacij\u0173 komiteto nar\u0117<\/strong><\/p>\n

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CHAIRMAN OF THE ECIIA PUBLIC COMMITTEE MELVYN NEATE: ABOUT BIGGEST CHALLENGES OF INTERNAL AUDIT, ECIIA INITIATIVES AND\u00a0HEADING THE TEAM OF 170 AUDITORS<\/strong><\/p>\n

In the end of November 2019 Melvyn Neate, Chairman of the ECIIA Public Committee visited Vilnius. He came heres to make a presentation and participate in the panel discussion about Audit Committees in public sector. We found Melvyn not only as a person willing to share his experience about internal audit matters but also interesting person to discuss other topics, such as travelling, politics and other.\u00a0 Melvyn agreed to answer to some questions and to tell more about himself and his experience to the members of the IIA Lithuania \u2013 so please enjoy the reading interview with him!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Currently you have a role of Chairman of the ECIIA Public Committee. Previously you have been Chairman of the IIA UK & Ireland, had different roles and positions in internal audit area in public as well as private sector. Who is Melvyn Neate today? Which role you consider as the most interesting personally for you and most important from experience point of view?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Now that I have retired from full time employment, I am able to achieve a good balance between my family and work related matters. I have two grandchildren, a girl aged 3 and a baby boy aged 9 weeks. With my wife, we try to spend as much time with our grandchildren as possible.<\/p>\n

Regarding work, my time is split three ways. Firstly, I have some paid employment through my membership of Audit Committees. Secondly, I have a voluntary role as chair of the ECIIA\u2019s Public Sector Committee and thirdly, I give a number of presentations on various subjects relating to organisational culture, governance, risk management and of course internal audit.<\/p>\n

Which role do you consider as the most interesting personally for you and most important from experience point of view?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I would not single out any particular role as each has given me something in terms of both interest and experience. Certainly my biggest role was the last one before I retired as Director of Internal Audit for HM Revenue and Customs. With more than 70,000 employees and a \u2018turnover\u2019 of\u00a0 nearly \u00a3500 billion, there were many challenges, both in terms of complexity, diversity and sheer magnitude. To meet these challenges, I had a team of 170 internal auditors, all of whom were either qualified or studying to be so. Having spent most of my career in banking and financial services, I also had to get used to the public sector culture and ethos as well as the political climate in which it operates.<\/p>\n

My role as an ECIIA Board member, representing the UK and Ireland, proved to be one of great interest as it gave me an understanding of the European dimension and the myriad of different auditing operational practices. One lesson that I would like to share is that, however well you think you are doing, there is always somebody somewhere that you can learn from. The capturing of best practices with a view to spreading their adoption is something that we internal auditors should promote and practice!<\/p>\n

The mission of the ECIIA is \u201cto be the consolidated voice for the profession of internal auditing in Europe (\u2026)\u201d. What does it mean from the ECIIA Public Sector Committee point of view? What are the most important activities you are currently working within Public Committee? Any initiatives that can be beneficial for the members of the IIA Lithuania or other stakeholder in Lithuania?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Regarding the public sector, I think the ECIIA\u2019s Mission should be to be the consolidated voice of the internal audit profession in the European Public Sector. The ECIIA aims to promote good governance and internal audit in all sectors.<\/p>\n

At the end of last Summer, the Public Sector Committee published its first position paper on \u2019Audit Committees in the European Public Sector\u2019. This paper analysed the situation across the European Public Sector and set out the advantages of establishing Audit Committees. It also set out the perceived obstacles to their creation. It concluded that the benefits derived from Audit Committees far outweighed any disadvantages and consequently advocated that Internal Audit should promote their establishment in the European Public Sector.<\/p>\n

The second Public Sector Committee project relates to Integrated Reporting. This project is being carried out jointly with our colleagues from Eurosai. A survey will be sent out early in 2020 to determine the use of integrated reporting across the European public sector with a view to publishing a position paper later in the year.<\/p>\n

The third active project relates to intern audit standards in the public sector. At the ECIIA General Assembly, more than half of the members indicated that they had no set standards. Our project will set out to determine the current status, find out existing practices and make recommendations for the future.<\/p>\n

I believe that all three of these initiatives could be beneficial to members of the public sector in Lithuania and I very much welcome hearing your views.<\/p>\n

You gave a presentation and participated in the discussion about Audit Committees, which was organized by the IIA Lithuania and BICG on 28th of November. How would you shortly describe the state of Audit Committees in Europe? What are the biggest challenges in public sector and private sector? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Currently the position in the European public sector varies significantly, ranging from nations like the UK and France where Audit Committees are mandatory in the government sector to other nations where Audit Committees do not exist or, where they do, have only been established in state owned public enterprises. The ECIIA is promoting these committees because it believes that they can play a significant role in improving governance. A clearer understanding of how these committees work and the benefits they can bring is the basis of the ECIIA\u2019s advocacy effort.<\/p>\n

To be effective Audit Committees need to have the full backing of the organisation\u2019s board\/ governing body. They also need to have the right membership in terms of knowledge, skills and, most importantly the ability to challenge and ask the right questions. This is true of both the private and public sectors.<\/p>\n

What are your reflections after this discussion? <\/strong><\/p>\n

There seems to be a keen interest in Audit Committees as demonstrated by the numerous questions. Initially, I believe that there were some misconceptions as to their value which I hope my presentation dispelled. It took a considerable period of time before Audit Committees were properly established in the UK public sector and I do not expect that the situation will change overnight in Lithuania. However, I believe that internal audit should be a catalyst in bringing about change and should actively promote Audit Committee in the public sector.<\/p>\n

Thank you for the conversation!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Interview held by Ina Lukosiene, Chairwomen of the Institute of Internal Auditors Lithuania<\/em><\/strong><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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